Oppo sound check!

"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike) 07/08/2017 at 14:46 • Filed to: Oppohelp

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No, not THAT kind of sound check....but I need some suggestions and help IDing a noise I’ve been hearing from Humdrum. As you all know by now, Humdrum is my bone-stock, no-options base trim 2009 Hyundai Accent with a manual transmission. She currently has about 123,000kms on her.

Well, in the last month or two, I thought I was hearing a higher-pitched squeak coming from my car as I drove (and while driving it is almost constant....not ‘squeak squeak squeak’ but ‘ssssqqqquuuueeeeaaaakkkk’, if that makes any sense). Now, it’s not really become more pronounced, louder, etc, but I opened my window and REALLY listened closely for it today on the drive home. I can hear it when the car is in any gear and when the clutch is engaged, but the second I clutch-in, the noise goes away...I’m thinking a bearing of some sort...?

Any thoughts / ideas? Hoping it’s not going to be deathly expensive to replace, whatever it is...

Captain of the Enterprise > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 07/08/2017 at 14:49

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It would probably help if you had audio of the noise since it’s really hard to replicate with text. That said maybe the throw out bearing?

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Captain of the Enterprise 07/08/2017 at 15:06

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Wouldn’t a throw out bearing make more noise with the clutch in though?

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 07/08/2017 at 15:09

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If I had to guess. I’d say the pilot bearing, although I don’t have a whole lot of experience diagnosing clutch issues.

Bad News (If it’s the pilot bearing)- Expensive

Good News- Entire clutch job. Which at least it’ll be out of the way. I think that’s about 70k miles, so not there’s probably not a whole lot of time left on the clutch anyways.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Captain of the Enterprise 07/08/2017 at 15:12

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Sadly, it’s loud enough to hear faintly with the window open - I have to be driving past a wall, building or row of trees/bushes for the sound to reflect back though, else it’s hard to hear....long story short, too quiet for any of my camera mics to pick it up...

Captain of the Enterprise > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 07/08/2017 at 15:12

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I don’t really know I grasping at straws here.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 07/08/2017 at 15:13

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That’s what Borsuq was just saying to me, and that’s what I thought it could be at first until I realized it only did it with a gear engaged and me not touching the clutch...but the second I clutch in, it goes away.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 07/08/2017 at 15:14

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....grand...any idea how much that operation will cost if it DOES need a new pilot bearing? Can I just keep driving on it until it gets worse?

AFAIK the car has it’s original clutch. I bought it used with 54,000kms on the clock, so unless the previous owner was an idiot and burnt it out early, it should still be the original.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 07/08/2017 at 15:19

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It’d be a whole clutch job. The pilot bearing is what the flywheel rides on. My guess, is that it’s bad but not completely, which is why it doesn’t make the noise when the clutch is disengaged.

The reason you’d do the whole clutch. Is because the parts are so cheap relative to the labor so you might as well. The bearing is probably $20, the clutch $50 and the throwout bearing $20. The labor would probably be $500-$700 (in the US) Because they’re going to have to remove all that stuff to do the pilot bearing anyway.

Not really sure how long you could drive with it. I’d imagine you have some time though.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 07/08/2017 at 16:16

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Damn...well...I’ll keep going until it gets worse for the time being. It’s been like that for awhile now and not showed any signs of worsening, so I imagine I have a little while yet!